Industrial group from Port Huron, Michigan active from 1981-1982. Originally formed in mid 1980 as [https://www.discogs.com/artist/6473402|Problem], featuring Jeff Hardman, Carla + Thomas Nordstrom, and Tim Major, who was later replaced by Paul Steinborn. Name changed to Hate/Grey in fall of 1981. Steinborn was replaced by Lon C. Diehl in the final months of the group, which disbanded after their live debut at the Freezer Theater in Detroit in February 1982.